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We are descendants of the Original Peoples, and it was our Ancestors who formed the FIRST NATIONS.
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Ishtar
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Post subject: Crystals Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:45 am |
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I was just wondering what your views are on the usage of crystals?
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Theresa13
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:27 pm |
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 9:15 pm Posts: 450 Location: Studio City, CA
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Dear Ishtar,
I don't like the New Agey use of crystals at all. I grew up with lots and lots of what are known as semi-precious stones. I inherited a great amount of them. I still have a couple of jars of Kingsman turquoise. I had more, but I gave some to my nephew and some of the stones to other people. My father was a professional jeweler. All stones have a unique energy some of which are female and some of which are male. Some have warm energies whereas others have cold energies, and some are even neutral. To work with stones, you must properly cleanse and bless them. You must always respect them. My boyfriend's ex-wife showed her son a couple of stones she picked up and told him she put body or hand lotion on them, because she thought it made them feel good. I don't think so!
Walk In Balance, Deer
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yaahl
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:01 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:08 pm Posts: 26 Location: Canada
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Personally, I think they should be left alone. I believe their power comes from their environment, location and connection to the earth. Take them out of that and all you have is a paperweight.
Istar, you do realize that not all First Nations have traditions that include rock/crystal usage? I hope that you are not assuming a common error committed by some non-natives that involves approaching us with a pan-Indian/stereotypical conception.
Now, instead of asking some us about a new-age thing.. why not ask how much some of us love moose meat and the absolute delicacy... moose nose?
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Ishtar
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:29 am |
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yaahl wrote: Istar, you do realize that not all First Nations have traditions that include rock/crystal usage? I hope that you are not assuming a common error committed by some non-natives that involves approaching us with a pan-Indian/stereotypical conception.
Now, instead of asking some us about a new-age thing.. why not ask how much some of us love moose meat and the absolute delicacy... moose nose? You know, First Nations never really entered my mind when I asked the question, I was just curious as to what the views of crystals was on this side of the pond. I'll be the first to admit that I know very little about Native Americans and of what I do know, I don't know if it's genuine, real or some horse crap made up by idiots for whatever reason. I figured that if I really want to know about Native Americans, then the best thing to do is ask Native Americans. I reckon I'm setting myself up as target practice here,  but hey, here goes, why do some of your people love moose meat and what's with the,"the absolute delicacy of moose nose?" 
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Ishtar
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:05 am |
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That's refreshing, I thought I was all alone in my views I have serious reservations about the modern usage of Crystals. In Britain, it's crazy, they are everywhere, especially within the new age communities. I personally believe they are very powerful and in the wrong hands, they can do as much harm as they can good. I also hold view that they are the Earths, for her healing. She shares with us those that are on the surface, but those deep within her are not for our use. There's no educated reasoning behind that, it's just how it feels to me.
Then there's the aspect of the worldwide Pagan, new age community self labeling themselves as Earth's children, yet they have no idea(nor do I think they really care) how those crystals, that they revere so highly were mined. Which is contradictory to their own self adhesive labels and hypocritical to there own made up beliefs.
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War Arrow
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:56 am |
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Not sure quite how this fits in, or if it does, but I tend to the view that things are only as powerful as the meaning you attach to them. Further to the point about pagans worldwide and their view of crystals, I've never been a big fan of marijuana (just find it extremely unpleasant) and this sort of thing ( Tarahumara forced off land by narco industry) I find kind of disgusting, not least when folks get all misty-eyed about the weed. Hmmm. Sorry. Bit of a derail there. Please pay no mind and carry on.
_________________ "For as long as the world shall endure, the honour and the glory of Mexico-Tenochtitlan must never be forgotten." - Chimalpahin Quautlehuanitzin
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Theresa13
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:07 pm |
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Dear War Arrow,
I agree with you about marijuana for the most part. Having said that, the legitimate use of marijuana has helped many people, especially those who have glaucoma as it relieves the pressure in the eyes caused by the condition. My boyfriend has a prescription for it as he has two-and-a-half discs missing from his spine which causes him horrible pain at times. Unfortunately, here in California there is way too much abuse of it. Clinics are everywhere, and quacks are prescribing medical marijuana to people who barely have a headache. It makes it very difficult for those people who really need it.
Ishtar, as far as crystals go, I really don't like the New Agey abuse of it, but please don't lump all Pagans with New Age. There are wannabes who are really New Agers, and there are Pagans who follow their paths without making a big show out of it. There are many Pagan traditions, and some Pagans come from families who have been Pagans for generations.
Walk In Balance, Deer
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yaahl
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:37 pm |
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Istar, Can I please ask that in your reference to Aboriginal folks that you not use the term American Native to indicate all of us. As an example, I live in Canada and I'm not part of the American First Nations. I prefer to be referred to by my First Nation's name.
For too long we've been lumped together under a historical misnomer and each of us have our own language, traditions, territory, medicines, dances, songs and stories which we'd love for someone to ask us about. In Canada, there are over 600 First Nation Bands and a multitude of languages and dialects. The USA has just as many and we can't forget those folks in the Caribbean, Central and South America.
Now for the moose... the meat of a moose is about the leanest meat one can find in nature and if it's cooked properly, it is the most tender (although buffalo and mountain sheep come pretty close). Moose nose is a treat as it's even more tender than the meat. It is cooked by first singeing the fine hair off the nose and then cutting it into quarter size pieces and braising it until it melts in your mouth. YUM YUM YUM. Traditionally, in my culture we reserve the moose lips for the elders. Now that is the absolute melt in your mouth meat.
We start our hunting season where I come from right after the rutting season (which usually falls around the full moon in September). We have a structured set of behaviours that are adhered to in the hunting, killing and usage of the animal none of which includes feathers, crystals, or anything else that seems to be attributed to us by the mainstream movie/book goer and readers.
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ollan xolatl
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:44 pm |
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Theresa13 wrote: Dear War Arrow,
I agree with you about marijuana for the most part. Having said that, the legitimate use of marijuana has helped many people, especially those who have glaucoma as it relieves the pressure in the eyes caused by the condition. My boyfriend has a prescription for it as he has two-and-a-half discs missing from his spine which causes him horrible pain at times. Unfortunately, here in California there is way too much abuse of it. Clinics are everywhere, and quacks are prescribing medical marijuana to people who barely have a headache. It makes it very difficult for those people who really need it.
Ishtar, as far as crystals go, I really don't like the New Agey abuse of it, but please don't lump all Pagans with New Age. There are wannabes who are really New Agers, and there are Pagans who follow their paths without making a big show out of it. There are many Pagan traditions, and some Pagans come from families who have been Pagans for generations.
Walk In Balance, Deer how did marijuana get in a crystals thread war arrow must be stoned i used to see crystals hanging on necklaces on rear view mirrors in cars. didn't know there was such a new age fuss about them.
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War Arrow
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:53 am |
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Theresa13 wrote: Having said that, the legitimate use of marijuana has helped many people, especially those who have glaucoma as it relieves the pressure in the eyes caused by the condition. My boyfriend has a prescription for it as he has two-and-a-half discs missing from his spine which causes him horrible pain at times. Sorry Theresa - you're right there. There definitely seems to be a strong medical benefit to it in some cases... should have mentioned that. Sorry to hear about your boyfriend's back pain - that sounds awful.
_________________ "For as long as the world shall endure, the honour and the glory of Mexico-Tenochtitlan must never be forgotten." - Chimalpahin Quautlehuanitzin
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Theresa13
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Post subject: Re: Crystals Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:25 pm |
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 9:15 pm Posts: 450 Location: Studio City, CA
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Dear War Arrow. Please. No apologies necessary.  Thank you very much for your kind words about my boyfriend. Walk In Balance, Deer
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